1 00:00:00,507 --> 00:00:03,090 (gentle music) 2 00:00:05,707 --> 00:00:09,510 - Hey, I'm Thomas Zurbuchen, also known as Dr. Z. 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:13,040 - And I'm Ellen Stofan also known as Dr. E. 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:16,210 And this is the next episode of E.Z. Science. 5 00:00:16,210 --> 00:00:18,800 - We're here at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,020 our other Air and Space Museum. 7 00:00:21,020 --> 00:00:22,670 Today we're gonna be talking about something 8 00:00:22,670 --> 00:00:24,180 a little different that some people 9 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:26,260 might not associate with NASA. 10 00:00:26,260 --> 00:00:28,530 - That's right, we're talking about balloons. 11 00:00:28,530 --> 00:00:32,450 Balloons that float very, very high up in the atmosphere. 12 00:00:32,450 --> 00:00:34,780 - Now this was actually a really special balloon 13 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:36,700 called the Breitling Orbiter 3. 14 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:39,330 It took Bertrand Piccard and Brian Jones 15 00:00:39,330 --> 00:00:44,330 around the world nonstop for the first time in 1999. 16 00:00:44,550 --> 00:00:47,140 So a record breaking flight that we celebrate here 17 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:49,100 at the Hazy Center but you have a little bit 18 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:51,030 of a connection because obviously Thomas 19 00:00:51,030 --> 00:00:54,040 you're from Switzerland and this launched from Switzerland. 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,780 - Exactly right, I remember of course watching this. 21 00:00:56,780 --> 00:00:59,250 There was tremendous coverage in all of Switzerland 22 00:00:59,250 --> 00:01:01,000 also all over the world. 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,040 - Well to me what we celebrated here at Hazy 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,510 and at the Air and Space Museum 25 00:01:05,510 --> 00:01:08,010 is this idea that innovators and explorers 26 00:01:08,010 --> 00:01:09,390 help to change the world. 27 00:01:09,390 --> 00:01:12,489 And balloon science really helps us understand 28 00:01:12,489 --> 00:01:16,610 not just our world better but actually the whole universe. 29 00:01:16,610 --> 00:01:17,770 - That's exactly right. 30 00:01:17,770 --> 00:01:20,080 That essential idea of the balloon 31 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,240 is to move and experiment over the atmosphere. 32 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,050 Per square inch, there's something like 33 00:01:26,050 --> 00:01:29,960 15 pounds of atmospheric weights on top of us. 34 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:31,929 - Sometimes we have to make our spacecraft really small 35 00:01:31,929 --> 00:01:34,630 if we're trying to get them all the way up into orbit. 36 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:35,900 But going up in a balloon 37 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:37,730 we can actually take a fair amount of weight. 38 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:39,680 That's important because the more mass you have 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,620 that means the more instruments and more science you can do. 40 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:45,670 - [Thomas] Exactly right, so we can bring up to 8000 pounds. 41 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:47,220 - [Ellen] How big are these balloons and how long 42 00:01:47,220 --> 00:01:48,760 do they actually stay up? 43 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,330 - We have a variety of balloons. 44 00:01:50,330 --> 00:01:52,470 The biggest ones are so big they'll fill 45 00:01:52,470 --> 00:01:54,590 a whole football stadium. 46 00:01:54,590 --> 00:01:57,350 Some of them last for hours and days 47 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:59,830 and the longest ones, the super pressure balloons, 48 00:01:59,830 --> 00:02:01,937 last for up to 100 days. 49 00:02:01,937 --> 00:02:03,770 - And one of the things I think it's important 50 00:02:03,770 --> 00:02:06,280 for people to understand is they actually rely 51 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,120 on balloons every day in a way 52 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,690 that they might not know about. 53 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:11,510 Weather balloons launched every day 54 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:14,843 help us to understand and predict tomorrow's weather. 55 00:02:14,843 --> 00:02:17,900 - NASA launches about 15 balloons a year 56 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:20,444 from a variety of locations all the way 57 00:02:20,444 --> 00:02:22,670 from New Zealand to Texas. 58 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:25,040 - We actually have three different NASA instruments 59 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,930 that flew on balloons in our downtown museum. 60 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:30,100 All of them we're looking at radiation 61 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:31,640 left over from the Big Bang 62 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,842 to help us understand the Big Bang better. 63 00:02:33,842 --> 00:02:35,430 - These measurements have really 64 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:37,430 transformed our understanding. 65 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:38,680 - Now it's hard for people to understand 66 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,930 how we can be studying the Big Bang 67 00:02:40,930 --> 00:02:43,500 from our atmosphere, something that happened 68 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:46,440 billions and billions and billions of years ago. 69 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,120 But all those particles are coming from a huge distance. 70 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,771 It takes them a long time to travel to us. 71 00:02:52,771 --> 00:02:56,720 So it's really almost an echo of the Big Bang 72 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,960 that just took a long time to reach the earth. 73 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,824 And that helps us to actually understand that event 74 00:03:01,824 --> 00:03:04,384 that we don't understand very well yet. 75 00:03:04,384 --> 00:03:07,220 - So as we make those measurements 76 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:09,290 and combine them with measurements from the ground 77 00:03:09,290 --> 00:03:10,780 but also from spacecraft, 78 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:13,980 that picture of the earliest moments of the Big Bang 79 00:03:13,980 --> 00:03:17,620 and then also the evolution of the first galaxies, 80 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:21,205 you know the evolution of matter, is really coming together. 81 00:03:21,205 --> 00:03:22,423 We've made a lot of progress and in part 82 00:03:22,423 --> 00:03:24,240 because of these balloons. 83 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,210 - Now we also study the earth from balloon based instruments 84 00:03:27,210 --> 00:03:29,080 like I know one of the experiments that was done 85 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,370 not that long ago was actually looking at 86 00:03:31,370 --> 00:03:34,630 how much solar radiation comes back from the earth 87 00:03:34,630 --> 00:03:36,530 into space which is important for us 88 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:38,630 trying to understand how does Earth's 89 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:41,120 climate and weather work? 90 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,840 And that solar radiation and how much stays in, 91 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,432 how much leaves is really critical to understanding that. 92 00:03:46,432 --> 00:03:47,265 - Yeah, that's right. 93 00:03:47,265 --> 00:03:49,213 What's really important about that experiment too 94 00:03:49,213 --> 00:03:51,740 is that we used the balloon really as a platform 95 00:03:51,740 --> 00:03:53,481 to try the technology. 96 00:03:53,481 --> 00:03:57,530 We can afford probably 1% of the cost, go try it out, 97 00:03:57,530 --> 00:04:00,260 and make sure we understand it before we're finally ready 98 00:04:00,260 --> 00:04:02,393 and putting it up there in space. 99 00:04:02,393 --> 00:04:04,630 You know the other thing that we don't often talk about 100 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:05,850 and I'm really passionate about 101 00:04:05,850 --> 00:04:08,560 is it's with these very balloons we actually train 102 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,420 the next generation of explorers 103 00:04:10,420 --> 00:04:13,700 and the next generation of instrument makers. 104 00:04:13,700 --> 00:04:15,700 - We actually run a summer camp 105 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:17,850 here at the National Air and Space Museum 106 00:04:17,850 --> 00:04:19,890 for girls on aviation. 107 00:04:19,890 --> 00:04:21,990 And one of the things that we have the girls do 108 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:24,820 is actually launch a weather ballon basically 109 00:04:24,820 --> 00:04:26,900 up to the stratosphere. 110 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:29,410 Seeing the looks on their faces when the data comes back 111 00:04:29,410 --> 00:04:32,410 and realizing that they're part of this experiment, 112 00:04:32,410 --> 00:04:36,150 you go try, you put something up there, is really exciting. 113 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:37,710 - So Ellen I have a question for you. 114 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:39,660 How long do you think it would take 115 00:04:39,660 --> 00:04:42,540 until we have a balloon in the atmosphere of Venus? 116 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:45,110 - Venus is a perfect planet to explore with the balloon 117 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:47,390 because while it's very hot on the surface 118 00:04:47,390 --> 00:04:50,540 it actually gets cooler as you go higher in the atmosphere. 119 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:53,130 So you can't really have a rover on Venus. 120 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:54,890 That mobility where we want to visit 121 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:58,040 lots of different sites, it's just too hot with a rover. 122 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,510 So the idea is could we send a balloon to Venus 123 00:05:00,510 --> 00:05:03,220 that could go up into the atmosphere, cool off, 124 00:05:03,220 --> 00:05:06,800 move along, come back and explore a different site? 125 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,830 - Perhaps one of your innovators will figure out 126 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:10,610 how we get to Venus with a balloon. 127 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:12,170 - Absolutely, that's our role here 128 00:05:12,170 --> 00:05:14,210 at the Air and Space Museum is to inspire 129 00:05:14,210 --> 00:05:17,070 that next generation of innovators and explorers. 130 00:05:17,070 --> 00:05:19,853 If you have topics for us or questions 131 00:05:19,853 --> 00:05:22,820 please send them in and we'll talk about them 132 00:05:22,820 --> 00:05:24,747 on a future episode of